Mammograms, Breast Cancer Risks, and Mammogram Alternatives

# Truth About Mammograms, Breast Cancer Risks, and Bold Alternatives with Dr. Jenn Simmons | Ep #300
# https://www.youtube.com/watch/O9pvrcuHspk

00:00:00.120 welcome back it’s the longevity podcast
00:00:03.360 and here is where we cut through the
00:00:05.480 health and wellness noise and serve up
00:00:07.520 the real deal because truly who the heck
00:00:10.320 has time for bad advice uh today we are
00:00:13.440 thrilled to have Dr Jen Simmons a
00:00:16.039 surgeon turned functional medicine
00:00:18.439 Powerhouse here to blow your mind and
00:00:21.199 possibly ruffle a few feathers we’re
00:00:24.240 unpacking some jaw-dropping truths about
00:00:26.279 breast cancer starting with this shocker
00:00:28.679 up to 30% of breast cancer diagnosis
00:00:31.759 might be unnecessary leading to
00:00:34.040 treatments that could cause more harm
00:00:35.920 than good Dr Jen also breaks down why
00:00:38.559 the mamogram isn’t the Flawless life s
00:00:40.800 it’s been hyped up to be and introduces
00:00:43.000 Innovative Alternatives like QT scans
00:00:45.680 and even a simple tear test that’s right
00:00:48.760 tears from your eyes that could re
00:00:51.640 revolutionize early detection but it’s
00:00:54.320 not just about screening Dr Jen explains
00:00:56.520 how your lifestyle impacts breast health
00:00:58.800 from the hidden dangers of processed
00:01:00.359 foods and sugar to why poor sleep and
00:01:02.399 chronic stress could be creating the
00:01:05.159 perfect storm for cancer to set in she’s
00:01:07.680 here to help you take back control so
00:01:09.560 grab your coffee or tea or bone broth
00:01:12.600 and get ready to learn laugh and maybe
00:01:15.240 rethink your health habits let’s do this
00:01:18.560 now who is Dr Jen Simmons she’s a breast
00:01:20.880 cancer surgeon turned integrative
00:01:22.600 oncologist on a mission to change how we
00:01:24.720 diagnose treat and screen for breast
00:01:26.400 cancer her best-selling book The Smart
00:01:28.799 women’s guide to breast cancer is
00:01:30.479 changing the narrative around breast
00:01:32.079 cancer and will undoubtedly change the
00:01:34.600 lives of millions of women worried about
00:01:36.759 or affected by breast cancer diagnosis
00:01:39.280 she’s opening the first perforation
00:01:41.159 Imaging Center which accurately screens
00:01:43.520 for breast cancer using revolutionary
00:01:46.439 new technology that involves no pain no
00:01:50.000 compression no radiation no more
00:01:53.399 mammograms ladies I mean that alone is
00:01:56.159 something to cheer about all right let’s
00:01:58.240 jump into the episode hey folks just a
00:02:00.200 quick reminder that all of the
00:02:01.719 information presented in this podcast is
00:02:04.719 for information purposes only no medical
00:02:07.920 advice no diagnosing no treatments
00:02:10.440 suggested here before you try anything
00:02:12.680 that you hear about or learn about here
00:02:14.800 make sure that you check with your
00:02:16.160 medical provider welcome to the show Dr
00:02:18.440 Jen Simmons it is so great to have you
00:02:21.000 here I am delighted to be here to say
00:02:23.879 the very least yeah so um we’ve just met
00:02:27.280 but I feel like some we already have a
00:02:29.480 little bit of a girl crush going we have
00:02:31.040 a thing going on so you guys if we’re if
00:02:34.080 we’re sounding super whatever it’s
00:02:36.080 because we are um well I think when you
00:02:38.319 meet Kindred Spirits it really like it
00:02:41.599 blossoms fast yeah yeah energetically
00:02:44.159 there’s a connection and and we just
00:02:45.680 know this is going to be a great
00:02:46.879 conversation and an important
00:02:48.920 conversation right and we were just
00:02:50.519 talking about this before we started the
00:02:52.280 podcast that this conversation about
00:02:55.640 bioidentical hormone replacement therapy
00:02:58.080 and busting myths and
00:03:00.840 delivering truth gems about breast
00:03:04.239 cancer is never going to get old because
00:03:07.640 there’s still so much misinformation out
00:03:09.840 there it’s it’s it’s amazing that we
00:03:12.000 still have to bust these myths and as we
00:03:14.319 were saying before you know you would
00:03:17.239 think that with all the talk that goes
00:03:19.360 on people would know this but the truth
00:03:22.200 is that they don’t and and we have been
00:03:24.720 so indoctrinated into a certain line of
00:03:28.560 thinking that it’s almost hard for
00:03:31.439 people to unhear it it’s not unlike you
00:03:33.519 know something else that went on in 2020
00:03:36.319 and 2021 where people heard a narrative
00:03:40.319 and they just couldn’t think past the
00:03:43.080 narrative that they heard I mean this is
00:03:45.280 what’s been going on with in the breast
00:03:48.120 cancer world for 50 years well since the
00:03:51.439 since the frame since the nurses study
00:03:53.519 right well even before that I mean if we
00:03:55.640 start to talk about mamogram you know
00:03:58.439 that that’s the 19 70s and that
00:04:01.400 information that was released in 19 in
00:04:04.079 the 1970s is still being repeated today
00:04:07.239 even though it’s not true and we’ve
00:04:08.640 known for decades and decades and
00:04:10.400 decades that it’s not true and then and
00:04:12.959 then the Women’s Health Initiative God I
00:04:15.239 mean we’re talking about 20 years ago 20
00:04:18.040 years ago and still there are Decades of
00:04:21.600 providers that were trained in that
00:04:23.759 mindset and under that mindset and they
00:04:25.800 have not changed their tune they have
00:04:28.360 not they didn’t read the retraction
00:04:29.919 paper I know that exactly it was even
00:04:32.960 retracted yeah like 2017 retraction
00:04:36.120 paper read it read it like my theory on
00:04:38.720 the mammograms is that hospitals and
00:04:40.960 Health Systems have invested so much
00:04:42.759 money in the physical equipment that
00:04:46.759 they are not open to a conversation that
00:04:49.280 maybe this is not the best strategy but
00:04:52.400 we’re getting ahead of ourselves we’re
00:04:53.720 gon we’re going to get to mogs let’s
00:04:55.160 talk about the landscape of breast
00:04:56.919 cancer let’s let’s just speak to the
00:05:00.280 landscape that that ex that is before us
00:05:03.199 in the world today yeah so I mean
00:05:06.039 everyone knows the numbers right you can
00:05:08.000 look at 1 and 7even 1 and8 over a
00:05:10.000 lifetime are going to be personally
00:05:12.360 affected by breast cancer but when you
00:05:14.199 talk about numbers that common and this
00:05:18.520 is in the umbrella of a total cancer
00:05:21.919 landscape which is now approaching one
00:05:24.720 and three in your lifetime will have
00:05:26.960 cancer all right so frightening
00:05:28.720 frightening frightening
00:05:30.280 and with regard to breast cancer if you
00:05:32.520 have one in seven or one in eight women
00:05:34.319 over their lifetime getting breast
00:05:36.120 cancer there is literally no one that is
00:05:38.759 untouched there’s no one that is going
00:05:40.800 to go through their lifetime Untouched
00:05:43.240 by breast
00:05:44.199 cancer it’s either going to be you or
00:05:46.639 it’s going to be your mother it’s going
00:05:47.759 to be your daughter it’s going to be
00:05:48.840 your sister it’s going to be your cousin
00:05:50.039 it’s going to be your neighbor it’s
00:05:50.919 going to be your teacher it’s going to
00:05:52.440 be your friend it’s going to be your
00:05:55.440 your clergy like it it’s going to be
00:05:57.960 someone yeah you’re not going to be
00:06:00.240 Untouched by breast cancer and the shame
00:06:03.560 of it is that that number is in the very
00:06:09.120 least exaggerated by 20 to 30% so we are
00:06:13.240 over diagnosing breast cancer by 20 to
00:06:17.520 30% so we have all of these people and
00:06:20.960 you know we’re talking about if we if we
00:06:23.840 diagnose well I I’ll give you this
00:06:26.000 statistic there are four million women
00:06:29.680 in the US today living with a breast
00:06:31.560 cancer diagnosis so if 20 to 30% of them
00:06:35.840 were
00:06:37.560 overdiagnosed that means that we have
00:06:41.039 800,000 to a million
00:06:43.599 women walking around having been treated
00:06:46.759 for breast cancer that didn’t need to be
00:06:49.280 treated at all okay let’s let’s un
00:06:53.560 unack do you have chills right now you
00:06:57.080 should I got slightly nauseous yeah so
00:07:01.280 so let’s unpack that is that is that
00:07:04.840 just just explain this to me what that
00:07:07.160 means is this do they get treated at any
00:07:10.080 point do they find out that they were B
00:07:12.039 diagnosed or does the system just kind
00:07:13.800 of go let’s just sweep that one under
00:07:15.319 the rug and so this is all because of
00:07:19.360 the mamogram this is all because of the
00:07:22.599 mamogram so let’s talk about the
00:07:24.599 mammographic screening program so when
00:07:27.520 it when it came to be in the 197 s MH it
00:07:32.039 was invented and
00:07:34.560 used with very good intention so please
00:07:39.080 please know that I am not in any way
00:07:41.919 criticizing the intentions of this
00:07:45.000 program the foundation of this program
00:07:47.800 it was built on the foundational beliefs
00:07:50.599 that breast cancer growth is both linear
00:07:54.280 and predictable meaning that a breast
00:07:57.039 cancer starts really small grows to some
00:08:00.199 critical size at which point it’s more
00:08:02.680 likely to metastasize so if you could
00:08:05.520 find that breast cancer before it reach
00:08:07.919 that critical point you could prevent
00:08:11.400 metastasis save lives save breasts and
00:08:15.520 women could undergo less treatment less
00:08:17.680 aggressive treatment right Noble
00:08:20.720 beautiful
00:08:22.720 logical just doesn’t happen to be
00:08:25.520 true okay let that little topic breast
00:08:30.360 cancer growth unlike something like
00:08:32.599 colon cancer which does have obligatory
00:08:36.120 steps that it walks through right so
00:08:38.640 it’s a nothing and then it’s a pup and
00:08:40.479 then the pup under goes degeneration and
00:08:42.479 then it’s a cancer this does not happen
00:08:44.640 in the breast there are no obligatory
00:08:47.160 relationships so people can develop dcis
00:08:50.839 and not go on to develop breast cancer
00:08:53.600 people can develop
00:08:55.120 atipia and not go on to develop dcis and
00:08:58.680 not go on to develop breast cancer and
00:09:01.000 not everyone who gets breast cancer had
00:09:05.000 dcis as a precursor some people just get
00:09:08.360 breast cancer denovo meaning that they
00:09:11.240 never had dcis they just get breast
00:09:13.920 cancer what’s dcis dcis let me in the
00:09:17.200 room here I’m no no no dcis is ductal
00:09:20.320 carcinoma in citu okay right and this is
00:09:23.600 a process where the where the breast
00:09:26.000 cells are are dividing the cells are
00:09:28.519 abnormal there’s no question about that
00:09:30.680 but this process is entirely contained
00:09:33.200 inside of the ducts of the breast and
00:09:36.440 they have no ability to spread anywhere
00:09:39.600 else so this by definition is not
00:09:42.680 life-threatening no one ever dies of
00:09:45.279 dcis and yet it is treated like breast
00:09:48.800 cancer and it is treated like breast
00:09:50.920 cancer under the guise of if you don’t
00:09:53.440 treat this this is going to turn into
00:09:55.360 invasive breast cancer and you’re going
00:09:57.160 to die right it’s unethical it’s
00:10:01.320 unethical that we are saying this to
00:10:03.440 women and what’s happening is they get
00:10:05.920 this diagnosis of dcis abdal carcinoma
00:10:08.399 and citu and they’re scared they’re
00:10:10.399 scared they think they’re going to
00:10:12.440 develop invasive cancer and they’re
00:10:14.519 going to die so what do they do they
00:10:16.279 agree to
00:10:17.320 treatment right so I’m not even actually
00:10:21.800 talking about the dcis population
00:10:25.079 because there are also invasive breast
00:10:27.480 cancers that develop in the breast that
00:10:30.279 never go on to form clinical disease so
00:10:34.040 we have convinced the world that breast
00:10:37.680 cancer growth is linear and predictable
00:10:40.680 and so if we use the mamogram to find
00:10:43.440 these things when they’re really small
00:10:45.959 then we can save lives and save
00:10:48.760 breasts and so what’s the difference
00:10:51.040 between a tumor that will metastized and
00:10:54.240 lead to you know tragedy and a tumor
00:10:58.360 that doesn’t it’s an amazing amazing
00:11:01.399 question right and the answer is
00:11:04.079 biology and the biology cannot be
00:11:07.839 determined by the mamogram and if we
00:11:11.880 biopsy everything that we see on
00:11:14.959 mamogram which is what we’re doing right
00:11:17.480 now we still cannot predict we don’t
00:11:21.560 have a test right now that predicts who
00:11:25.000 will go on to have metastatic disease
00:11:27.920 and who won’t there are some genetic
00:11:31.600 tests there is some testing analysis
00:11:34.440 that can help to statisfy people but
00:11:37.720 still we don’t have any any reliable way
00:11:40.600 of knowing but here’s what’s really
00:11:43.200 interesting so if you look at the
00:11:45.320 Canadian breast cancer screening trial
00:11:48.040 which this should really resonate with
00:11:50.720 you we looked at 990,000 women 45,000
00:11:55.639 underwent screening mammogram 45,000 did
00:11:58.639 not they just had self- breast
00:12:00.160 examination they monitored
00:12:02.480 themselves the same and this is young
00:12:05.120 women right so this is the group of
00:12:07.279 women who we are most concerned about
00:12:09.560 because they are the ones that develop
00:12:11.240 aggressive disease and the question is
00:12:13.440 does mamogram save lives and make a
00:12:15.880 difference in this population so women
00:12:17.880 40 to 59 years old 45,000 get mammograms
00:12:22.560 45,000 do not the same exact number of
00:12:26.600 women die of breast cancer in each group
00:12:29.240 the same exact number of
00:12:30.959 women okay here’s the
00:12:33.720 difference there are 20 to 30% more
00:12:37.440 women diagnosed with breast cancer in
00:12:41.000 the group of women that
00:12:43.160 screen these women would have never
00:12:46.279 known about their disease it would have
00:12:48.519 never affected them and yet because
00:12:51.120 they’re screening with mamogram and
00:12:52.920 mamogram is calling all of these things
00:12:55.399 and we’re not waiting to see if they
00:12:57.199 develop clinical disease
00:12:59.920 they get treated for breast cancer now
00:13:02.000 listen if treatment for breast cancer
00:13:04.800 were
00:13:05.680 benign that would be fine yeah it would
00:13:08.079 be fine but what happens when we treat a
00:13:10.680 woman for breast cancer he gets blood
00:13:12.639 cancer about 15 to 20 years
00:13:14.839 later so we put her by about 50 years
00:13:19.040 that’s exactly right she ages we we
00:13:23.199 shorten the
00:13:25.440 length the quality the duration of her
00:13:29.279 life it has a significant impact because
00:13:33.320 almost all of the treatments for breast
00:13:35.480 cancer and I’m lumping them together at
00:13:38.000 this point because most women get all of
00:13:40.760 them surgery deforming
00:13:44.240 right radiation chemotherapy anti
00:13:48.440 anti-hormonal therapy they accelerate
00:13:50.880 heart disease they accelerate brain
00:13:53.480 degeneration they accelerate
00:13:55.519 osteoporosis these are the three major
00:13:57.880 threats to a woman’s life
00:14:00.240 so if women who have been treated for
00:14:03.440 breast cancer are two to three times
00:14:05.600 more likely to die of heart disease than
00:14:07.360 women who were not and and heart disease
00:14:11.839 is exponentially the threat to a woman’s
00:14:14.880 life anyway and we’re just increasing
00:14:17.920 the risk of heart disease have we helped
00:14:20.680 these women have we helped them okay so
00:14:24.320 so you said that that we that there’s no
00:14:27.440 reliable test at this moment
00:14:29.759 that will differentiate between the the
00:14:33.240 growth that will turn into that should
00:14:36.720 be treated yeah versus the growth that
00:14:38.880 can’t be treated so what what is the
00:14:40.920 answer to that situation because we
00:14:42.759 don’t want to sit and wait until it’s
00:14:45.880 traveled so what’s the see that that
00:14:50.040 whole that whole line of thinking is
00:14:52.600 exactly what they want you to say what
00:14:54.880 you what they want you to think and the
00:14:57.560 truth is no matter how many mammograms
00:14:59.839 we do every year the same exact number
00:15:03.079 of women die of breast cancer because
00:15:05.759 it’s that aggressive variant that’s
00:15:08.560 either going to present in between
00:15:11.959 mammograms or it it doesn’t matter if
00:15:15.440 you find that early because it’s just
00:15:17.759 going to do what it does the truth is
00:15:20.639 that monitoring for clinical disease is
00:15:25.480 actually the correct thing to do but
00:15:30.319 what I’m really I know that’s it seems
00:15:32.399 so scary but the truth it seems a bit
00:15:34.920 frightening to wait for it to progress
00:15:37.360 and maybe to move to another system but
00:15:40.160 progressing is not really what we’re
00:15:42.199 talking about we’re talking about it
00:15:44.120 being clinically apparent because not
00:15:46.600 everyone will develop a lump in their
00:15:48.120 breast so if we wait to see Who develops
00:15:51.240 a lump in their breast and treat them
00:15:54.480 that is the right thing to do okay so
00:15:57.240 what are we detecting with the mamogram
00:15:59.079 not detecting a lump we’re detecting
00:16:00.800 like the itty bitty little teeny tiny
00:16:03.079 thing and even a biopsy of that you’re
00:16:05.680 saying is not really going to give us
00:16:07.480 any real information and I I mean I when
00:16:10.920 I was in school when I went back to
00:16:12.880 school to become a nutritionist I had a
00:16:15.639 I had a teacher she ironically was a
00:16:17.880 pathology teacher super smart woman who’
00:16:21.000 been living with a lump in her breast
00:16:22.600 for years and absolutely hands down
00:16:26.199 refused any kind of treatment or or I
00:16:29.319 mean she was doing all holistic and you
00:16:31.759 know alternative treatments but she she
00:16:33.800 would not even allow them to biopsy that
00:16:35.880 her growth because her belief was that
00:16:39.319 the minute that you you you break
00:16:41.839 through that encapsulation you’re now
00:16:44.639 giving an opportunity to those cells if
00:16:47.160 they are aggressive to get out and to
00:16:50.560 now propagate and move through the
00:16:53.399 system so I’m I’m curious on your
00:16:55.199 thoughts on that because last I heard
00:16:56.560 she’s still alive and kicking and doing
00:16:58.240 really well yeah so she is a perfect
00:17:02.120 example of someone who does not have an
00:17:03.920 aggressive process and she and her body
00:17:06.640 is containing that process and what
00:17:08.959 we’re not allowing for is for that to
00:17:12.199 happen to most people because most
00:17:13.959 people have a mammographic finding and
00:17:16.199 then are committed to this whole biopsy
00:17:18.799 and treatment cycle now I do want to say
00:17:22.679 there is a caveat here and there is hope
00:17:25.319 right okay good um and so what I use for
00:17:29.799 screening is the answer to all of this
00:17:32.559 but I I want to finish up by saying that
00:17:36.600 again we are overdiagnosing with
00:17:39.280 mamogram we are diagnosing women who did
00:17:41.760 not need to be diagnosed certainly did
00:17:44.720 not need to be treated and no matter how
00:17:47.960 many mammograms we do every year the
00:17:50.039 same exact number of women die of breast
00:17:52.039 cancer so we are not impacting that
00:17:54.000 bottom line and no matter how many
00:17:56.760 mammograms we do every year the same
00:17:58.559 exact number of women present with
00:18:00.440 aggressive disease those are the people
00:18:02.120 that are going to go on and die of
00:18:03.960 breast cancer so mamogram has not
00:18:07.400 impacted that part of things at all so
00:18:10.280 that whole belief that you’re going to
00:18:12.760 find something early and prevent women
00:18:16.000 from dying of disease it’s just simply
00:18:18.679 not true it’s what they want you to
00:18:20.919 believe but it’s not true you are not
00:18:23.919 saving those people and for all the
00:18:25.679 people that believe that mammograms
00:18:27.400 saved their life statistically speaking
00:18:30.559 it’s simply not true mamogram does not
00:18:33.720 save their life at
00:18:35.520 all mamogram creates cancer in some
00:18:40.120 people I I I want to be careful about
00:18:43.039 that word because I know that that a lot
00:18:46.280 of people are are bothered by it but it
00:18:51.000 it demonstrates Legions in people that
00:18:55.120 they do not they would have never become
00:18:57.720 clinically relevant
00:18:59.240 and they do not need the same kind of
00:19:02.840 intervention that other people need so
00:19:06.080 if if people believe that mammograms
00:19:09.520 save lives statistically speaking it’s
00:19:12.880 just not true and Chris War had a great
00:19:17.000 post uh about a week ago I don’t know if
00:19:20.360 you know him Chris beat cancer um he he
00:19:25.000 is someone who is very forthright with
00:19:27.960 his story where he was diagnosed at I
00:19:31.120 want to say 29 with stage three colon
00:19:33.840 cancer and opted to not do chemotherapy
00:19:36.840 and changed his diet and his lifestyle
00:19:39.240 and you know got rid of a really really
00:19:41.799 stressful job and and all of that and
00:19:45.720 actually reversed his disease he did
00:19:47.840 have surgery so I don’t want to say that
00:19:49.559 he didn’t do anything conventional but
00:19:52.240 for colon cancer you’d want to eliminate
00:19:54.360 the tumor load as it were yes and he did
00:19:57.280 that right but he did not have he did
00:20:00.120 not have chemotherapy he did not follow
00:20:02.280 the the complete traditional
00:20:04.720 recommendations and he’s actually
00:20:06.919 created a an amazing brilliant community
00:20:10.400 of people who are following his lead and
00:20:12.679 making profound lifestyle changes and
00:20:15.760 healing so there is a
00:20:18.880 huge misconception between what people
00:20:22.760 think mammograms do and what mammograms
00:20:25.880 actually do so when you look at let’s
00:20:29.559 say a thousand
00:20:31.280 women most people think that mammograms
00:20:35.360 double the the chances of surviving from
00:20:39.360 breast
00:20:40.240 cancer and the truth is that in a
00:20:43.280 thousand women what most people think is
00:20:46.679 that when you screen only 80 will die
00:20:49.360 from breast cancer but if you don’t
00:20:51.840 screen 160 will die from breast cancer
00:20:54.520 that’s the perception that’s what people
00:20:56.400 think mamogram does uality when you
00:20:59.720 screen a thousand women four of them
00:21:03.159 with mamogram four of them will die of
00:21:05.080 breast cancer and if you don’t screen
00:21:07.720 five will die of breast
00:21:10.799 cancer now it kind of sucks for the
00:21:12.840 fifth woman but what are the other so
00:21:15.960 what are the what’s the alternative like
00:21:17.760 what’s the know now I’m like okay cool I
00:21:21.600 haven’t had a mamogram in a long time
00:21:23.000 I’m not feeling so bad about that but
00:21:25.240 yes now and we can also talk about the
00:21:27.200 alternative but before we talk about
00:21:28.760 that there is also one of the one of the
00:21:31.200 many shortcomings of mammograms is women
00:21:33.200 with dense breast which I’ve come to the
00:21:34.960 conclusion that there’s a whole lot of
00:21:36.279 us out there yeah because at least at
00:21:39.320 le% of the population at least at least
00:21:42.480 40 of the screening population so we’re
00:21:44.400 told if you have dense tissue in your
00:21:46.559 breast mamogram is not really going to
00:21:48.360 do a great job they still insist on
00:21:50.039 smashing the Jesus out of your boobs and
00:21:53.000 then you know it doesn’t work let’s use
00:21:55.559 it more like let’s use it harder it’s
00:21:58.960 kind of like you know the person who
00:22:00.480 doesn’t understand the language you’re
00:22:01.720 speaking yelling at them more loudly and
00:22:04.360 more slowly they’re still not going to
00:22:06.080 understand the language just saying yeah
00:22:08.400 um and then the last time I you know
00:22:11.000 they were so intent on getting in there
00:22:13.840 is that they sent they then sent me for
00:22:15.440 an ultrasound and the ultrasound came
00:22:18.000 back fine and everything was good and
00:22:19.760 they sent me on my way
00:22:21.279 but what is this what are your thoughts
00:22:24.440 on on that
00:22:25.679 whole so first of all let’s talk about
00:22:27.960 what Den breast means right so the
00:22:30.240 breast is made up of four tissues it’s
00:22:31.760 made up of glandular tissue that’s the
00:22:33.440 milk producing tissue it’s made up of
00:22:35.320 fat it’s made up of connective tissue
00:22:37.360 that kind of holds everything together
00:22:38.840 and it’s all in a skin envelope and so
00:22:41.919 when we say you have dense breasts it
00:22:43.840 means that you have a lot of that
00:22:45.320 glandular tissue as compared to the
00:22:48.279 amount of fat in your breast okay and
00:22:51.440 when you are
00:22:54.880 premenopausal it is absolutely normal to
00:22:58.799 have dense breasts okay right so you are
00:23:03.360 supposed to have dense breasts if you
00:23:06.000 are premenopausal because you are
00:23:07.640 supposed to be able to feed an infant
00:23:10.240 and the only significance of dense
00:23:12.840 breasts is as you
00:23:16.320 age and you have less need for that for
00:23:20.440 that glandular tissue it is supposed to
00:23:23.000 involute it is supposed to go away so
00:23:26.120 the only risk factor in having dense
00:23:29.159 breasts is that if you are
00:23:31.799 postmenopausal and you still have dense
00:23:34.360 breasts that is often a sign of
00:23:37.960 inflammation or you just don’t have a
00:23:40.600 lot of
00:23:41.760 fat okay right that makesense so but it
00:23:44.720 is not it is not an absolute risk factor
00:23:48.880 for breast cancer and in the dense
00:23:51.840 breasted population mamogram is a
00:23:54.720 terrible test it Miss it will miss 40%
00:23:58.520 of cancers in women with dense breasts
00:24:01.400 which is at least 40% of the population
00:24:03.480 it’s a terrible test and if you watch
00:24:07.159 the documentary called boobs the
00:24:10.840 documentary don’t Google boobs because
00:24:13.400 you won’t like what you see no and and
00:24:15.720 then your feet will be destroyed for
00:24:17.400 life so but Megan
00:24:19.840 Smith um wrote and produced boobs the
00:24:23.720 documentary it was a totally like
00:24:26.960 unintentional document for her she she
00:24:30.880 learned about this in the course of
00:24:32.720 doing another
00:24:34.120 documentary and it really breaks down
00:24:37.440 what happens with mamogram because the
00:24:39.919 truth is that you know we talk about
00:24:44.200 radiation in a number of contexts right
00:24:48.279 so in every other context radiation is
00:24:52.880 bad radiation is a known carcinogen And
00:24:57.120 yet when we talk about radiation in the
00:25:00.279 course of
00:25:01.720 mamogram now it’s 100% safe now it’s
00:25:05.320 perfectly safe now it’s not that much
00:25:08.159 radiation right like the story changes
00:25:11.440 because we gave it a nice name mamogram
00:25:14.440 picture of the breast okay right you
00:25:16.520 took the question right off my lips
00:25:18.000 because I would my next question is it’s
00:25:19.720 still it’s still
00:25:21.360 radiation that are at higher risk they
00:25:23.600 want to do more mamogram more often
00:25:25.880 that’s exactly right so now they’re
00:25:27.840 getting ready rated instead of once a
00:25:29.520 year every 6 months mhm and when you
00:25:33.880 look at the technology according to
00:25:35.559 Megan Smith I’m just I’m just repeating
00:25:37.840 she did this research I did not
00:25:39.399 personally do this research but when you
00:25:41.039 look at the technology what it does is
00:25:43.960 it auto adjusts for the breast density
00:25:47.080 so that there are if you are someone
00:25:48.960 with a large breast or someone with a
00:25:51.279 lot of tissue density that machine is
00:25:54.000 auto adjusting and turning up the
00:25:56.240 radiation in order to be able to
00:25:58.600 penetrate dense tissue so some women who
00:26:01.480 are getting mammograms are getting 10
00:26:04.159 times the amount of radiation that
00:26:06.640 someone with a non-d dense breast or a
00:26:08.960 small breast or a smaller breast is
00:26:10.960 getting wow so and this is not being
00:26:14.320 regulated this is not even being talked
00:26:16.640 about there are even Radiologists and
00:26:20.320 breast Radiologists who don’t even know
00:26:22.760 this because it’s not talked about so we
00:26:26.840 are radi in women every year and there
00:26:31.640 are so many arguments and justifications
00:26:35.159 for it one of the one of my favorite
00:26:37.919 things to debunk is so often what people
00:26:41.240 say is oh well it’s the same amount of
00:26:43.600 radiation that you would get in a
00:26:45.000 cross-country
00:26:46.399 flight in an absolute way that may be
00:26:49.360 true but that’s not good even even but
00:26:52.840 even even a four-year-old understands
00:26:55.640 the difference between scattered
00:26:57.520 radiation
00:26:59.159 and something being ConEd down into the
00:27:02.760 tissues of the compressed breast right
00:27:06.480 you cannot say these things in the same
00:27:09.120 sentence we’re not comparing Apples to
00:27:11.399 Apples we’re comparing apples to oranges
00:27:14.039 they are not the same yeah and it is far
00:27:17.080 more damaging when you’re coning it down
00:27:19.640 and concentrating it to the tissues of
00:27:22.120 the breast which are already vulnerable
00:27:24.840 this is the canary and the Coline so the
00:27:27.159 truth is that no matter the every single
00:27:30.559 mamogram you have matters that radiation
00:27:34.000 is being retained in the tissue is doing
00:27:36.440 tissue
00:27:37.520 damage and the more mammograms you have
00:27:40.840 in your life the higher your risk is of
00:27:43.960 getting breast
00:27:45.440 cancer this is a fact this is this this
00:27:49.080 is something that we have to deal with
00:27:51.559 and we have to start letting women make
00:27:54.000 an informed decision and they’re not
00:27:56.360 able to make that now they’re told that
00:27:59.399 mammograms save lives and statistically
00:28:02.279 speaking that is not true and they are
00:28:05.159 told that mammograms are safe and that
00:28:08.080 is also not
00:28:10.320 true right and in the end mammograms are
00:28:14.240 I I don’t I don’t have the exact numbers
00:28:16.919 but I can tell you that mammograms are
00:28:19.240 causing some of the cancers because if
00:28:21.960 repeated radiation you know it’s not
00:28:24.120 like you just get one mamogram yeah well
00:28:27.120 women if you started 40 and go till 70
00:28:30.480 yeah it’s 30 that’s 30 years of of
00:28:33.600 radiation well and I don’t those stats
00:28:35.840 don’t exist right nobody’s collecting
00:28:37.960 those stats I’m sure someone is
00:28:40.240 collecting those stats you’re going to
00:28:42.679 be hard pressed to find them because
00:28:45.360 like everything else that is
00:28:48.360 anti-industry anti-government anti-
00:28:50.960 Pharma anti- narrative it’s really hard
00:28:54.519 to find it’s really hard to find and you
00:28:57.519 have to do some deep Dives which people
00:28:59.919 have done and they get silenced this is
00:29:02.960 a cancel culture and if you don’t if you
00:29:05.600 don’t tow the line you get canceled yeah
00:29:08.519 and this is one of the areas where
00:29:09.840 you’re getting canceled so listen that’s
00:29:11.919 the bad news here’s the good news here’s
00:29:13.600 good news yeah here’s the good
00:29:15.399 news because I have the solution Co so I
00:29:19.039 don’t want anyone to fret okay first
00:29:22.600 here here’s what you’re going to do for
00:29:23.960 screening first I absolutely 100%
00:29:27.600 believe in self breast examination I
00:29:30.039 think that no one is ever going to know
00:29:31.720 you better than you know yourself no one
00:29:33.399 ever ever ever ever right let me give
00:29:36.760 you a news flash every single woman
00:29:39.399 thinks her breasts are lumpy it’s okay
00:29:42.000 it’s okay own your lumps right know what
00:29:45.080 you feel like when you’re normal so you
00:29:47.039 know what it feels like when something
00:29:48.840 has changed and if something’s changed I
00:29:52.559 think it’s okay to investigate that I am
00:29:54.640 not saying no one should ever have
00:29:56.200 another SC another mamogram
00:29:58.760 I’m saying no one should have another
00:30:00.360 screening mamogram screening mammograms
00:30:03.559 are for the healthy population who you
00:30:06.840 do not believe have any reason to
00:30:08.600 believe that they have disease right
00:30:10.799 that’s what a screening test needs to be
00:30:12.600 screening tests need to be for the
00:30:15.600 normal healthy population who you don’t
00:30:17.880 believe have the disease they need to be
00:30:20.000 safe they need to be accurate and they
00:30:21.720 need to be true right so I believe in
00:30:25.799 self breast examination if you are
00:30:28.000 premenopausal it should be one week
00:30:30.120 after your period that is when the
00:30:32.200 breasts are the most quiet mhm if you
00:30:34.840 are postmenopausal doesn’t matter just
00:30:36.760 feel them on the first right once a
00:30:39.159 month so that’s one thing I really
00:30:42.120 believe in that people don’t feel
00:30:43.559 comfortable with that they’re afraid
00:30:45.399 they’re going to miss something they’re
00:30:46.799 afraid that you know they’re going to
00:30:48.559 discover it when it’s too late it’s
00:30:50.559 actually not true but okay okay I have
00:30:53.399 alternatives for you the first is the
00:30:55.720 Arya test this is the tears test so we
00:30:59.840 secrete very early on in the breast
00:31:02.200 cancer process we secrete something
00:31:04.559 called the S100 A8 and S100 A9 proteins
00:31:08.639 and it just so happens that they are
00:31:10.799 very abundant in your tear so there
00:31:14.120 there is This brilliant company that has
00:31:16.600 come up with this test and so you know I
00:31:19.639 don’t work for the company I have
00:31:20.880 nothing to do with the company I just
00:31:22.880 learned about their technology you put
00:31:25.960 this little piece of paper in the corner
00:31:27.919 corner of your eye close your eye 5
00:31:29.600 minutes send it off to the company they
00:31:31.679 check for these these S100 proteins and
00:31:35.240 they give you a risk stratification low
00:31:38.840 medium high risk of having breast cancer
00:31:41.760 if you have medium or high risk of
00:31:43.440 having breast cancer if you have medium
00:31:45.720 risk you you need to be screening every
00:31:47.919 single year and taking that opportunity
00:31:50.559 to do everything that you can to
00:31:52.120 decrease your inflammation and get rid
00:31:54.080 of that risk factor and if you have a
00:31:56.120 high score you need to look and make
00:31:59.720 sure that there’s no breast cancer there
00:32:01.840 and also at the same time do all the
00:32:03.880 things that we know that drive health
00:32:05.519 and lower inflammation so how do you
00:32:07.880 look though what what’s what’s your next
00:32:10.039 step screening wise because it’s mogram
00:32:12.760 from based on the first 20 minutes of
00:32:14.399 our conversation right so this is this
00:32:16.960 is what I recommend for screening so
00:32:18.919 first of all it’s not available in
00:32:20.519 Canada but the QT scan is available in
00:32:23.519 several places in the United States and
00:32:25.480 I am trying my best to as quickly as I
00:32:29.600 can open up more centers so that every
00:32:31.679 woman who wants access to a QT scan can
00:32:34.360 get access to a QT scan I opened the
00:32:36.639 first Perfection Imaging in haford which
00:32:40.600 features this technology this uses
00:32:44.600 soundwaves transmitted through a water
00:32:46.519 bath to create a true 3D reconstruction
00:32:49.440 of the breast it is 100% safe so we can
00:32:52.559 image children we can image everyone
00:32:55.440 because there is no radiation there is
00:32:57.840 no compression it is comfortable
00:33:00.120 actually most women fall asleep during
00:33:01.960 their scan scan takes anywhere it takes
00:33:05.399 around 15 or 20
00:33:07.399 minutes and it is highly accurate it’s
00:33:11.559 highly sensitive but the most amazing
00:33:14.919 thing about this scan that isn’t true of
00:33:17.320 anything else and this is where the
00:33:19.639 biology comes in we can actually measure
00:33:22.320 a doubling time so if we see a lesion in
00:33:24.960 the breast that we think needs following
00:33:27.919 where where we we are not certain if
00:33:30.440 this is a cancer or not we can bring
00:33:33.240 someone back in 60 days rescan the
00:33:35.600 breast remeasure the lesion measure a
00:33:38.360 doubling time and we know that things
00:33:40.799 that are
00:33:41.960 cancer have a doubling time of less than
00:33:45.039 100 days and things that are either not
00:33:48.080 cancer or not important not active have
00:33:51.279 a greater doubling time so if it has a
00:33:53.440 cancer if it has a doubling time of less
00:33:55.440 than 100 days we tell these women this
00:33:57.960 is something that needs attention this
00:33:59.399 is something that needs treatment go do
00:34:02.200 all the traditional things because you
00:34:04.200 have something that needs attention and
00:34:06.399 if it has a greater than 100 day
00:34:08.639 doubling time then we know this is your
00:34:11.679 opportunity you do not need to do
00:34:13.639 anything about this right now this is
00:34:15.560 not going to hurt you however we want to
00:34:18.280 make sure you lower your inflammation
00:34:20.399 you you improve your internal external
00:34:24.800 environment right take this as your
00:34:27.320 opportunity Unity to improve your health
00:34:30.480 and when you do these things often go
00:34:34.320 away and we can continue to monitor you
00:34:37.760 year to year without putting you in any
00:34:40.760 danger without exposing you to radiation
00:34:43.119 and without having you to have to
00:34:45.239 undergo an unnecessary biopsy which
00:34:48.760 incidentally 75% of the core biopsies
00:34:52.079 that are done are done for benign
00:34:54.280 disease and yet when you tell a woman
00:34:57.480 that she needs a biopsy or if a woman
00:34:59.480 has had a biopsy that’s a bell you can’t
00:35:01.599 un ring she always thinks that her
00:35:03.640 breast is abnormal she always think that
00:35:06.160 she’s high risk oh yeah I had to have
00:35:08.680 biopsies yeah right you can’t unring
00:35:12.000 that for someone and it has a profound
00:35:13.800 effect on their health going forward so
00:35:15.839 we want to avoid that so by using this
00:35:18.480 technology we avoid over biopsy we avoid
00:35:21.400 over diagnosis and we avoid
00:35:23.440 overtreatment and you know 800 to a
00:35:27.040 million women women in the United States
00:35:29.560 could have benefited from that who were
00:35:31.880 unnecessarily diagnosed and
00:35:33.440 unnecessarily treated right this is not
00:35:36.440 these are not small numbers so I love
00:35:39.800 for so my screening Paradigm is
00:35:43.240 self-exam the Arya test and it’s Arya a
00:35:46.640 r i a doare ara doare and we’ll give you
00:35:50.440 my code because you can get 20% off with
00:35:53.160 my code it’s Dr gen 20 d r j NN 20 m M
00:35:58.319 um and then if you have access to a QT
00:36:01.400 scan amazing have a QT scan now it’s
00:36:05.119 only in eight places so let’s talk about
00:36:08.319 what you should do if you want to image
00:36:10.400 and you don’t have
00:36:13.119 access the sorry let me ask you a
00:36:15.960 question first so how hard is it for
00:36:17.599 someone who’s from out of the country or
00:36:19.800 out of state to get access to the QT
00:36:22.400 scan I mean it’s of all covered by
00:36:25.000 insurance so it’s it’s not covered by
00:36:27.119 insurance it’s a $550 test it’s not a
00:36:30.200 $5,000 test and we scan people from
00:36:33.440 Canada every single day they come and
00:36:35.599 visit us at our Center yeah um so
00:36:40.839 thermography was touted as being a
00:36:43.720 breast cancer screening
00:36:45.920 test I love
00:36:47.960 thermography I use thermography I just
00:36:51.040 don’t use it as a screen a breast cancer
00:36:52.960 screening test because it’s not what
00:36:55.440 thermography does is it finds
00:36:58.480 inflammation it it finds a heat signal
00:37:01.160 and increasing heat which is associated
00:37:03.560 with
00:37:04.920 inflammation most breast cancers are
00:37:08.640 slow growing and will not put off that
00:37:12.280 inflammatory signal and so it is
00:37:16.160 definitely going to miss some breast
00:37:19.000 cancers in my opinion that’s probably
00:37:22.280 okay because those probably aren’t the
00:37:25.240 ones that need aggressive intervention
00:37:28.040 and treatment anyway right but I just
00:37:31.960 want to be very clear that thermography
00:37:34.119 is not a screening tool for breast
00:37:35.720 cancer it’s a screening tool for
00:37:37.119 inflammation that’s said I still use it
00:37:39.960 because I was say if your breast are
00:37:41.520 showing up with inflammation whether you
00:37:44.040 have breast cancer or not it’s a sign
00:37:46.680 that you’re going to have to take care
00:37:47.920 of the house like you got a problem and
00:37:50.880 so I use thermography and I use it for
00:37:55.040 opportunity here’s your opportunity to
00:37:57.720 know where there’s inflammation in your
00:38:00.359 body let’s address it let’s fix it let’s
00:38:04.480 let’s decrease the amount of
00:38:06.240 inflammation that you have and lower
00:38:08.359 your risks of getting a host of diseases
00:38:11.200 not only breast cancer right all these
00:38:13.920 chronic diseases right are the the basis
00:38:17.599 of all of almost all chronic disease is
00:38:20.880 inflammation yep so let’s eliminate the
00:38:23.800 risk factor let’s eliminate the Cause
00:38:26.760 right so I fully believe in thermography
00:38:29.680 I just want to be clear as to what it
00:38:31.720 does and why why to do it okay and then
00:38:36.000 you know for those that don’t have
00:38:38.480 access to QT and want to be imaged you
00:38:43.920 can use the ultrasound but the
00:38:45.839 ultrasound to me is problematic for
00:38:48.000 several reasons and not for the reasons
00:38:50.079 that most people think so the biggest
00:38:53.359 objection that the that kind of
00:38:55.520 mainstream conventional medicine has to
00:38:58.000 screening with ultrasound is that it
00:39:00.359 won’t pick up
00:39:01.839 calcifications calcifications are often
00:39:04.319 the earliest sign of something called
00:39:06.440 dcis ductal carcinoma and site2 that
00:39:08.800 non-invasive condition that we talked
00:39:10.480 about before and it’s true ultrasound
00:39:13.920 will not pick up
00:39:15.400 calcifications my response is I don’t
00:39:19.280 care right we talked about that earlier
00:39:22.240 right like I don’t think all these women
00:39:24.599 need to know about dcis or that they
00:39:27.440 have dcis because it is not something
00:39:30.880 that I don’t I don’t think we should be
00:39:32.760 treating dcis like it’s breast cancer I
00:39:35.440 don’t think we should take a disease
00:39:37.200 that is 100% survival survivable and
00:39:41.079 decrease survival because the treatments
00:39:43.920 for breast cancer are not 100%
00:39:47.040 survivable right people get heart
00:39:48.960 disease from from the treatment from
00:39:50.720 breast cancer people get osteoporosis
00:39:52.560 from the treatments for breast cancer
00:39:53.920 people get brain degeneration from the
00:39:55.920 treatments for breast cancer well and
00:39:57.800 isn’t there a higher propensity of
00:39:59.240 secondary cancers down the road from the
00:40:01.319 treat there are but people generally are
00:40:03.319 not getting chemotherapy from for for
00:40:07.160 dcis they are getting radiation and
00:40:09.359 there are some radiation induced
00:40:10.960 malignancies definitely so it does
00:40:13.800 increase the risk of having a second
00:40:16.680 malignancy um and also not for nothing
00:40:20.400 but the malignancies that happen the
00:40:23.760 cancers that happen after treatment tend
00:40:26.480 to be far more aggressive Rive cancers
00:40:28.200 because these treatments kind of Select
00:40:31.560 out for resistant disease M and so the
00:40:36.119 population that’s left over that then
00:40:37.880 gets to expand tends to be a resistant
00:40:40.440 population well and isn’t there also
00:40:42.160 damage and I’m just asking this because
00:40:44.480 you know these are part of the narrative
00:40:46.040 that we hear there’s also to some degree
00:40:48.599 damage to the immune system’s ability to
00:40:50.760 function from absolutely so now you’re
00:40:54.119 left potentially with more you know more
00:40:57.440 resistant you know kind of aggressive
00:40:59.800 cells and an immune system that’s
00:41:01.960 compromised and isn’t going to be able
00:41:03.920 to function in the first as well yes and
00:41:06.960 and quite frankly part of the evolution
00:41:10.480 of a cancer is an immune dysfunction
00:41:14.160 because you know we all have this
00:41:16.280 builtin recognition system our immune
00:41:19.000 system that is supposed to recognize
00:41:20.880 these Rogue cells these these cancer
00:41:22.920 cells in their infancy so that they
00:41:25.119 don’t achieve a mass
00:41:27.760 right so they they don’t expand and form
00:41:29.760 a tumor but our immune systems are so
00:41:32.720 challenged anymore right it’s like the
00:41:35.520 busyness of life and all the toxins and
00:41:38.280 the micro infections and you know you’re
00:41:41.760 and and the food food is a huge part of
00:41:44.599 it right so if you’re eating fake food
00:41:47.520 Franken Foods processed foods Ultra
00:41:49.599 processed foods these are all things
00:41:51.920 that are challenging your immune system
00:41:53.920 every single time you put them in your
00:41:55.359 body even ex sugar right I mean excess
00:41:58.040 sugar is a depressant to the IMM system
00:42:00.680 yes yes and five hour for five hours
00:42:04.560 after you eat sugar you will be immun
00:42:06.960 suppressed 5 hours every time you eat
00:42:09.520 sugar right so our immune systems are
00:42:13.480 already so challenged and then you cause
00:42:17.119 them more damage when you do these
00:42:18.839 treatments now I want to be very clear
00:42:21.079 about something I am not saying that
00:42:22.960 breast cancer isn’t a thing I am not
00:42:25.160 saying that there aren’t serious cases
00:42:26.920 of breast cancer I am not saying that
00:42:28.920 women don’t die of breast cancer I am
00:42:30.960 not saying that breast cancer shouldn’t
00:42:32.640 be
00:42:33.880 treated I am saying that we can no
00:42:37.119 longer use these Global blanket
00:42:40.160 statements we cannot treat everyone the
00:42:42.880 same we cannot categorize everyone the
00:42:45.880 same and that’s what we’re
00:42:48.119 doing everyone who has X gets why and we
00:42:52.200 have completely lost any of the
00:42:55.559 individuality and we have
00:42:57.760 also never asked why why is this
00:43:02.240 happening what are you supposed to be
00:43:04.119 learning what’s happening in your body
00:43:06.520 what message is this sending what are we
00:43:08.880 supposed to be figuring out from this
00:43:12.760 what is causing it we’re not asking any
00:43:14.920 of those questions we’re just I’m a
00:43:18.720 hammer there’s a nail that’s
00:43:21.559 it okay cool so then this brings us
00:43:24.559 beautiful segue thank you the next
00:43:26.599 section
00:43:27.920 um which is you know I think I mean
00:43:31.079 we’re going to talk about estrogen and
00:43:33.000 breast cancer because so often people
00:43:36.240 make a an an assumption that estrogen
00:43:39.760 causes breast cancer which you know I
00:43:42.640 think it’s it’s starting it’s starting
00:43:45.079 to Bubble Up that estrogen does not
00:43:47.680 cause breast cancer or it’s not that
00:43:49.520 simple right it’s just not if estrogen
00:43:52.880 cause breast cancer every pregnant woman
00:43:55.079 every woman in her 20s
00:43:57.640 or or wherever would would have had
00:44:00.640 breast cancer by now so so let’s talk
00:44:03.119 about the true link of estrogen between
00:44:05.520 estrogen and breast cancer if there even
00:44:07.160 is one and estrogen is a group of
00:44:10.400 compounds not a single compound so we’re
00:44:13.079 going to want to tease that apart a
00:44:14.280 little bit and then and then I do want
00:44:16.839 to talk a little before we get into HRT
00:44:19.640 I do want to talk about what are the or
00:44:22.520 maybe we’ll finish with that but let’s
00:44:24.119 start with estrogen and breast cancer
00:44:25.599 yeah let’s start I I want to start with
00:44:29.119 why we believe that right because what’s
00:44:32.680 happened is that we formulated this very
00:44:35.680 com the this convenient narrative in
00:44:39.440 order to sell anti-estrogen drugs right
00:44:43.520 so when we look at breast cancers under
00:44:46.720 the
00:44:48.720 microscope the majority 60% 70% maybe
00:44:53.760 even
00:44:55.440 80% have estrogen receptors on them
00:44:59.920 right and what that means is they
00:45:03.800 respond to circulating
00:45:07.079 estrogen now I have to tell you that
00:45:11.520 normal breast cells also have estrogen
00:45:14.640 receptors on them and and it’s normal
00:45:18.359 right that is how the breast cell is
00:45:20.520 regulated and the breast is an organ
00:45:24.359 that is there for the purposes of
00:45:26.400 feeding a child
00:45:27.640 so every month in the beginning of the
00:45:29.680 month the alpha receptors on the breast
00:45:33.599 cells are stimulated by estradiol to to
00:45:38.319 grow and prepare for
00:45:40.599 lactation and if conception does not
00:45:44.800 happen then the beta receptors then take
00:45:48.680 over and tell the breast cells like we
00:45:52.280 we don’t need you right yeah yeah yeah
00:45:56.040 and so we have beautiful cycling that
00:45:58.800 happens every
00:46:00.680 month now in the case of breast
00:46:05.440 cancer we know that most breast cancers
00:46:08.520 that we see are postmenopausal breast
00:46:11.640 cancers after estrogen I mean anyone who
00:46:16.000 treats postmenopausal women and measures
00:46:18.559 hormones can tell you they’re like
00:46:21.000 barely measurable there’s there’s almost
00:46:23.640 nothing there and we see these breast
00:46:26.480 cancers with this upregulation and
00:46:29.160 increase in estrogen
00:46:32.160 receptors these cells are just trying to
00:46:34.520 survive this is a survival mechanism
00:46:37.400 that’s what’s happening with these cells
00:46:39.760 it’s not that estrogen causes breast
00:46:42.359 cancer it’s the estrogen and I’m using
00:46:46.160 that term but I’m really describing the
00:46:49.599 estrogens we have three of them four if
00:46:51.880 you’re pregnant yeah estrogen is the
00:46:55.319 hormone of life
00:46:57.559 that’s what it is and when we lose our
00:47:00.800 estrogens that’s really when we see the
00:47:03.760 the
00:47:04.559 degeneration of our body right so we
00:47:09.960 developed this narrative that estrogen
00:47:12.680 causes breast cancer because there are
00:47:14.960 estrogen receptors on the majority of
00:47:18.000 breast cancer cells and we use these
00:47:22.400 estrogen
00:47:23.880 blockers to treat breast cancer but the
00:47:27.480 truth is that we could use
00:47:30.920 natural um uh beta receptor Agonist like
00:47:35.839 estriol to do the same thing but no
00:47:39.200 pharmaceutical company is going to speak
00:47:41.640 that narrative or support that research
00:47:44.839 because you can’t trademark a molecule
00:47:47.160 of nature so they can’t make billions of
00:47:51.119 dollar off of estriol so what did they
00:47:54.800 do they find a synthetic compound like
00:47:58.480 tamoxifen that sits on the estrogen
00:48:01.119 receptor and blocks those cells from
00:48:05.599 being
00:48:06.640 stimulated but there’s a problem with
00:48:09.280 tamoxifen the problem with tamoxifen is
00:48:12.040 that it is a synthetic estrogen and if
00:48:14.559 you believe that estrogen causes breast
00:48:16.480 cancer put tamoxifen on the list right
00:48:19.599 because it is a synthetic estrogen and
00:48:23.400 we know from lots of other studies that
00:48:26.280 synthetic
00:48:27.359 estrogens while they may be protective
00:48:30.720 in some areas are not so protective in
00:48:33.440 other areas and so we see an increase in
00:48:37.440 uterine cancer in women who are taking
00:48:41.920 tamoxifen because it has proliferative
00:48:45.160 effects on the uterus so that we
00:48:47.880 understood and supported that narrative
00:48:50.440 right that’s what that’s what that is
00:48:52.440 about but if that were true if estrogen
00:48:56.839 with a problem and I am talking about
00:48:58.680 our endogenous estrogen the thing that
00:49:00.880 we produce in the body then why would we
00:49:05.160 see breast cancer most commonly when we
00:49:09.680 are postmenopausal when there’s no
00:49:12.680 estrogen to be measured yeah why why
00:49:15.240 would that be the case what about the
00:49:18.000 what about the story of the 2 4 16 so we
00:49:21.200 have those three different Pathways that
00:49:23.480 estrogen can get driven down and
00:49:25.880 postmenopausal
00:49:27.799 in particular some women can end up with
00:49:30.319 a with a dominance of that 16oh which is
00:49:34.319 seen as the estrogen yes where is more
00:49:38.839 protected you know so yes absolutely so
00:49:42.920 I’m not saying that there aren’t people
00:49:45.680 who have estrogen metabolism issues and
00:49:49.480 all those metabolites that you’re
00:49:51.280 talking about I mean yes the 20 pathway
00:49:54.640 is considered the protective pathway but
00:49:57.240 all of those molecules are unstable
00:50:00.359 molecules and all of those molecules
00:50:02.559 those breakdown products they can cause
00:50:05.760 DNA damage that is for sure true and
00:50:09.319 that’s why it is so important for us to
00:50:12.839 be monitoring that in in a way and
00:50:17.040 making sure that we don’t have issues
00:50:20.240 with that but I don’t think that alone
00:50:24.280 in a vacuum is the problem
00:50:27.240 I think that that is compounded by
00:50:30.240 environmental estrogens you know just
00:50:33.240 breaking down our endogenous estrogens
00:50:36.480 is not the issue but that when we talk
00:50:39.680 about all of these xenoestrogens all of
00:50:42.079 these Plastics all of these antibiotics
00:50:45.359 this the fragrance the phalates the all
00:50:48.520 these things they are all metabolized
00:50:51.960 down that estrogen pathway and so I I
00:50:55.839 really believe that this is where we’re
00:50:58.760 getting into trouble and this is
00:51:02.359 something that we’ve never had to deal
00:51:04.599 with before we’ve never seen this
00:51:07.920 environmental burden before we are not
00:51:10.000 living on our grandmother’s Earth we’re
00:51:12.400 not even living on our mother’s Earth
00:51:14.760 and the number of xenoestrogens that we
00:51:17.000 come into contact with every single day
00:51:20.160 is exponentially more than we’ve ever
00:51:23.720 seen before and this to me
00:51:27.160 is the problem yeah because we did not
00:51:29.520 have these problems with estrogen
00:51:31.559 dominance 20 and 30 years ago it didn’t
00:51:34.720 exist and if it did it was an absolute
00:51:37.319 Rarity and now didn’t you didn’t hear
00:51:39.839 about it no and now it’s
00:51:42.480 everywhere and we are seeing it in
00:51:46.520 different forms at times where we did
00:51:49.839 not see it before and we’re not
00:51:52.200 realizing what it is so like the early
00:51:56.880 puberty the uh The Irregular Cycles the
00:52:01.520 infertility we’re not we’re not
00:52:04.359 considering that’s what’s going on
00:52:07.079 here intervention with the birth control
00:52:09.559 pill I mean you got 10y olds on the
00:52:11.319 birth control pill yes yes that’s
00:52:13.240 correct so we’re we’re mansplaining it
00:52:16.520 right we are we’re we’re we’re saying
00:52:19.400 like we’re going to take over your
00:52:21.160 menstrual cycle and yeah PS it doesn’t
00:52:23.640 work right it just compounds the problem
00:52:26.319 and then same thing when that when that
00:52:29.160 same woman who had those cycle
00:52:31.960 irregularities then goes and tries to
00:52:34.079 get pregnant in her 30s and can’t what
00:52:36.640 do we do we force a pregnancy on her
00:52:39.280 right and never are we unpacking what’s
00:52:42.000 going on yeah how do we clean up your
00:52:45.079 system how do we help you detoxify how
00:52:47.160 do we help your system to work
00:52:49.720 better right how do we support you with
00:52:52.720 the things that we know will help with
00:52:55.280 estrogen detoxification and at the same
00:52:57.599 time you have to prevent the stuff from
00:53:00.200 coming in you have to yeah which is
00:53:02.960 tricky but yes and and the last thing
00:53:06.160 that we’re really not considering that
00:53:08.960 is happening way too often is the impact
00:53:13.240 of stress on our hormonal health and and
00:53:16.400 especially our breast health because
00:53:19.119 when you think about it when you’re in a
00:53:20.640 cortisol dominant State there are lots
00:53:23.680 of things that happen because our bodies
00:53:26.799 only understand two states we understand
00:53:29.160 safety and we understand danger we don’t
00:53:32.599 understand the intricacies of danger so
00:53:35.640 to us having a work deadline is exactly
00:53:39.760 the same as having a saber-tooth tiger
00:53:42.079 on your tail right that’s all we need
00:53:45.400 that’s all we know is we have to run but
00:53:48.960 if you’re sitting in your chair and not
00:53:51.200 running you don’t metabolize any of that
00:53:54.280 cortisol so the cortisol is doing
00:53:56.480 several things most of them are
00:53:59.119 preparing your muscles to run so it
00:54:02.400 touch off your brain right because it
00:54:04.440 doesn’t want you to think about oh I
00:54:06.440 wonder which way should I run where
00:54:08.040 should I run to and should I stop here
00:54:09.720 on my way to running there like it just
00:54:11.960 wants you to say run yeah right so it’s
00:54:14.359 the monkey brain so the thinking part of
00:54:16.240 your brain the frontal L gets shut off
00:54:18.640 yeah and all the we make more glucose
00:54:22.040 which increases our insulin which
00:54:23.720 increases our insulin like growth factor
00:54:25.960 so increasing our risk for
00:54:28.400 cancer but it’s also shunting our blood
00:54:31.839 away from nonvital organs right so it
00:54:35.880 wants all your blood to go to your heart
00:54:38.200 to go to your muscles so that you can
00:54:40.079 run right well the breast as it turns
00:54:43.280 out is not a vital
00:54:44.960 organ so it we are walking around with
00:54:48.799 decreased circulation and decrease flow
00:54:51.960 to the
00:54:53.160 breast and so we’re sitting around
00:54:57.000 with excess toxins in our breast anyway
00:55:00.000 from the environment and environmental
00:55:03.000 toxins once they come into our body
00:55:05.599 they’re stored in fat cells even if you
00:55:08.000 have dense breasts you still have a lot
00:55:09.720 of fat cells in the breast so that is a
00:55:11.720 storage Basin for toxins and if you’re
00:55:15.200 not having flow through there then the
00:55:18.319 toxins are just sitting there and they
00:55:21.440 are sitting right next door to these
00:55:24.240 breast cells which are tender vulnerable
00:55:28.039 cells they are the canaries in the
00:55:30.079 Coline and they’re getting
00:55:32.520 damaged and this is what happens this is
00:55:35.520 this chronic process of a lack of stag
00:55:39.440 circulation stagnation not detoxifying
00:55:43.000 not clearing so getting this cellular
00:55:45.240 damage then we have you know if you have
00:55:47.799 to run away from a saber 2 tiger you
00:55:49.920 don’t need to fight off the common cold
00:55:51.880 so your immune system gets shut off so
00:55:54.440 now you have damaged breast cells an
00:55:56.640 immune system that’s shut off they’re
00:55:58.839 not the toxins aren’t being circulated
00:56:01.760 away they’re not being removed and this
00:56:04.119 is the recipe for breast cancer well and
00:56:06.480 you’re not sleeping like can we add
00:56:08.440 sleep to the stressors to the stress
00:56:11.839 because you can’t sleep if there’s a
00:56:13.680 saber 2 tiger outside of the cave yeah
00:56:16.839 like you know if you think that there’s
00:56:18.920 a saber 2 tiger outside that gave you’re
00:56:20.839 like this yeah hyperv yes yes for sure
00:56:25.440 and and this is what happening this is
00:56:27.640 what’s happening so you know we need to
00:56:30.039 stop this narrative that our estrogen is
00:56:32.160 hurting us we need to stop this
00:56:34.400 narrative and we need to talk about why
00:56:37.319 are we not metabolizing why are we not
00:56:40.280 moving our hormones through like we’re
00:56:42.640 supposed to be moving our hormones
00:56:44.000 through constipation is another huge
00:56:46.160 issue here because if you don’t get rid
00:56:48.960 of those metabolized hormones through
00:56:51.400 your stool that’s the third stage of
00:56:53.960 detoxification stage one happens in the
00:56:56.359 liver well one and two happen in the
00:56:58.240 liver but stage three is eliminating it
00:57:01.039 through your stool if you’re not doing
00:57:02.799 that you’re just going to resorb those
00:57:05.240 hormones and become estrogen dominant so
00:57:07.920 you know we use this term estrogen
00:57:09.799 dominance and we blame it on our
00:57:11.839 hormones but that’s actually not what’s
00:57:14.319 happening and we have to start asking
00:57:17.039 why why are you estrogen
00:57:20.400 dominant and so the lifestyle so this
00:57:24.079 leads us to a lifestyle recipe for
00:57:28.640 reducing our chance our risk right it’s
00:57:31.319 not to eliminate it but it’s going to
00:57:33.000 reduce it and so I’m just G to throw out
00:57:35.400 a couple of terms at you and I’d love
00:57:37.119 you to thumbs up thumbs down yes no and
00:57:40.680 in addition to so supporting the liver
00:57:44.000 in my mind is probably one of the most
00:57:46.359 important things to do because our liver
00:57:48.000 is overburdened very much like you were
00:57:50.680 talking about earlier completely
00:57:52.960 overburdened by the environment and by
00:57:55.240 this Nar that we need to have a bottle
00:57:57.480 of wine every night to relax I was just
00:58:00.720 going to mention the 800B gorilla in the
00:58:04.200 room right right so we have one more
00:58:09.079 wine bottle meme with a woman on it I I
00:58:12.280 know so we have so normalized alcohol
00:58:16.119 that I remember I had a post I think
00:58:18.119 last week and I I listed like five
00:58:21.440 invisible causes of breast cancer and
00:58:24.359 someone said well you didn’t mention
00:58:26.160 alcohol and I was like cuz it’s not
00:58:28.280 invisible is alcohol
00:58:30.680 invisible and and she said well you know
00:58:34.559 most people don’t know that alcohol
00:58:37.200 causes breast cancer and I’m like if you
00:58:40.200 don’t know that alcohol does does causes
00:58:43.240 breast cancer and if you think alcohol
00:58:45.359 is invisible I think that you have
00:58:48.160 bigger fish to fry well but I mean but
00:58:51.079 the problem is like you know to out of
00:58:54.039 out of compassion to this person the
00:58:56.400 narratives that are being pushed on
00:58:57.960 people are contradictory like there’s so
00:59:00.559 much CR and I mean you know we have
00:59:03.880 governments who
00:59:05.720 prioritized and I’m going to get myself
00:59:07.559 into a whole swamp here but they
00:59:09.799 prioritized keeping liquor stores open
00:59:11.839 during a pandemic over people’s access
00:59:14.480 to outdoor fresh air and so if you don’t
00:59:18.680 like it
00:59:20.039 it’s the fact that we have I mean in
00:59:22.480 Canada we have the in Ontario we have
00:59:23.920 these giant beautiful spectacular
00:59:26.760 Mega siiz boutiques showcasing all the
00:59:30.119 sexy beautiful alcohol that’s available
00:59:32.480 to
00:59:33.280 you and yet we struggle to provide
00:59:36.280 people with basic care to medicine or to
00:59:39.720 health care as opposed to sick care so I
00:59:42.559 think that you know I hate to wag I I
00:59:46.119 hate to Wave
00:59:47.559 My Flag conspiracy theorist yeah
00:59:52.960 yeah I mean like the truth is this is
00:59:56.599 very much by Design because if you get
01:00:01.440 people sick you can keep people sick and
01:00:05.440 there’s a very intentional design about
01:00:08.039 that and it’s it’s from you know it’s
01:00:11.079 from birth why aren’t we talking about
01:00:15.640 every child should be breastfed why
01:00:19.400 aren’t we making
01:00:22.480 breastfeeding so easy for women that you
01:00:26.160 would be crazy not to do it no instead I
01:00:29.319 mean listen when I when I was a child
01:00:31.720 granted it was a long time ago when I
01:00:34.119 was a child if you breastfed it was like
01:00:37.920 cons you you were either poor or
01:00:41.599 ignorant or you know you couldn’t afford
01:00:44.799 formula whatever it was and then even
01:00:48.079 when I was having my kids which you know
01:00:50.160 granted was 20 years ago when I was
01:00:53.319 having my kids there was this whole
01:00:56.119 narrative
01:00:58.119 that that formula was better than than
01:01:02.680 breast milk because it was engineered to
01:01:05.359 have all the things that a that a
01:01:08.319 newborn needs including corn syrup
01:01:11.000 apparently yeah yeah without without you
01:01:13.400 know pentadecanoic acid that only got
01:01:15.720 discovered like 10 minutes ago or cosens
01:01:19.039 that nobody knows about yeah so the
01:01:22.640 thing is that we start kids on on early
01:01:26.760 formula so early introduction of cow’s
01:01:29.720 milk which incidentally cow’s milk is
01:01:32.760 for baby cows and not for baby
01:01:35.640 humans and so then you know that starts
01:01:39.000 a lifetime of allergies of food
01:01:42.039 sensitivities and um and then we get
01:01:45.359 into that whole time of menstrual
01:01:48.280 irregularities and so then we give birth
01:01:50.400 control pills and then we get into
01:01:52.680 infertility and we have all this toxic
01:01:57.200 um Ultra processed food given all along
01:02:00.359 the way we’re getting kids addicted to
01:02:02.359 Sugar we have children with adult
01:02:05.279 diseases you know things that I ne I
01:02:08.119 didn’t we didn’t see this childhood
01:02:10.079 obesity of of you know two and three and
01:02:13.480 three children being overweight or obese
01:02:15.599 that was dis with fatty liver disease
01:02:19.160 with hypertension with lipid disorders
01:02:21.880 we didn’t see that it was unheard of
01:02:25.319 children I mean of course there was type
01:02:27.839 one autoimmune diabetes but but type two
01:02:30.960 diabetes in children unheard of and yet
01:02:34.839 we say it now we say it all the time
01:02:36.760 insulin resistance in children all the
01:02:39.279 time yeah so we are literally creating
01:02:44.160 this Society to be dependent on
01:02:47.520 Pharmaceuticals and yes we are living
01:02:50.359 longer for sure but we are not living
01:02:52.760 better yeah yeah nothing like that for
01:02:55.960 sure okay so what are the top let’s
01:02:58.720 let’s we’re you know we’re crossing the
01:03:00.319 hour I want there’s a few more things I
01:03:02.000 want to get through Before We Say
01:03:03.200 Goodbye so what would you say are the
01:03:06.240 top and you can pick the number it could
01:03:08.000 be five or six I don’t want to impose a
01:03:09.960 number on you but what are the top five
01:03:12.200 or six lifestyle strategies that you
01:03:14.319 believe that that you would you would
01:03:16.559 encourage every woman to adopt as soon
01:03:18.960 as humanly possible in order to support
01:03:22.039 proper metabolic and you know physical
01:03:26.200 physiological Health to decrease to
01:03:29.000 improve the function of your body and
01:03:30.799 decrease your chances
01:03:34.000 of having a problem with breast canc or
01:03:36.839 anything frankly or anything else but
01:03:38.599 we’re talking about breast cancer today
01:03:41.119 yeah um so the first thing I think that
01:03:45.760 everyone should be doing is getting into
01:03:50.279 circadian rhythm starting to be aligned
01:03:52.920 with the rhythm of the sun right Y and
01:03:55.400 so we are creatures of habit we are
01:03:58.160 completely tied to circadian rhythm we
01:04:01.200 know that there is a ton of dysfunction
01:04:03.559 if you live in opposition of circadian
01:04:05.960 rhythm you can look at night shift
01:04:07.799 workers you can look at at uh chronic
01:04:10.680 short sleepers people who sleep less
01:04:12.640 than five or six hours a night and they
01:04:15.760 have chronic diseases all of them and
01:04:19.039 and far increased rates of those chronic
01:04:22.240 diseases because they’re not awake when
01:04:24.480 they’re supposed to be awake and sleep
01:04:25.920 when they’re not and and they’re
01:04:27.599 sleeping when when they’re not supposed
01:04:29.440 to
01:04:30.359 be and um
01:04:33.799 so and I don’t have the solution for
01:04:36.400 night shift workers like it just sucks
01:04:38.480 that you’re a night shift worker um but
01:04:40.720 there is really no way to avoid these
01:04:42.640 chronic diseases if you’re going to do
01:04:44.039 that so for me I think that everyone
01:04:47.480 should get direct sunlight within 10
01:04:51.599 minutes of waking yep try to see the sun
01:04:55.440 in in the middle of the day and then
01:04:58.880 watch the sunset these are all cues to
01:05:02.319 your brain of how to regulate your
01:05:07.119 hormones in addition if you are outside
01:05:10.440 during those times you are outside in
01:05:13.359 nature if you can be somewhere where you
01:05:16.960 can take off your shoes and ground to
01:05:19.799 the Earth and discharge some of that
01:05:22.880 electrical magnetic energy that has come
01:05:26.039 through you it will serve you
01:05:28.599 well right so I believe in multiple
01:05:32.920 exposures to direct
01:05:35.160 sunlight um and I also think that we
01:05:38.760 need at the same time we need to be
01:05:41.599 aware that we need the sun it is our
01:05:43.880 life force since the at since the
01:05:47.960 liberal use of sunscreen and the vitamin
01:05:51.480 D deficiency that we have caused as a
01:05:54.359 result our disease disease has only
01:05:56.760 increased including cancer yep so
01:06:00.359 getting sun exposure at least 15 to 30
01:06:05.000 minutes of nonprotected sun exposure
01:06:08.680 every day so that your skin can absorb
01:06:11.880 the Sun and you can make vitamin D yes
01:06:14.760 you can supplement but it is not going
01:06:16.960 to be the same we need outside we need
01:06:20.079 to be in nature yeah so you’re in the
01:06:22.319 country you’re in a place and I’m in a
01:06:23.920 place where there are many months where
01:06:25.160 we can’t do that um so I don’t are you
01:06:28.599 familiar with the mitolo device I heard
01:06:31.559 I just heard of it yeah so this is this
01:06:34.440 is a little size of a tablet I can
01:06:36.960 introduce you to the nice man yeah size
01:06:40.079 of like almost like your iPad and it’s
01:06:42.160 five minutes every morning it exposes
01:06:44.799 you to the to full spectrum of
01:06:47.200 calibrated dose of
01:06:49.279 UVB sandwich between infrared light so
01:06:53.039 he he basically simulates sunrise your
01:06:55.760 UVB dose and then Sunset yeah and you’re
01:06:58.680 done and it gets your body to make your
01:07:00.440 own vitamin D which kind of pushes that
01:07:02.880 whole problem of vitamin D
01:07:05.000 supplementation yep off the table yep so
01:07:08.680 I alignment sun when you can get it or
01:07:13.839 yes so um to me a diet the diet is your
01:07:19.720 huge huge huge touch Point um 80% of our
01:07:24.400 exposure to the outside world is through
01:07:26.920 what we eat and drink every day
01:07:29.480 everything that you eat and drink is
01:07:31.319 either lifting you up or putting you
01:07:34.240 down and so I know that there is no one
01:07:38.039 right diet for everyone we are all
01:07:40.000 bioindividual and what’s right for me
01:07:42.200 may not be right for you and what’s
01:07:43.760 right for you may not be right for me I
01:07:46.119 do have some basic rules but remember
01:07:48.599 that I um live in a world where everyone
01:07:52.279 has breast cancer and so what applies to
01:07:55.559 my people may not be universally
01:07:58.240 applicable but what I talk about is a
01:08:01.480 whole food plant-based low glycemic
01:08:04.839 grainfree
01:08:06.839 diet and where you get your protein as
01:08:11.480 long as it is clean and minimally too
01:08:16.319 unprocessed is your choice I’m not I’m
01:08:20.640 not God I’m not your mother I’m not your
01:08:22.839 teacher I’m not your pastor I’m not I’m
01:08:24.920 not any there’s no judgment here this
01:08:27.279 isn’t church or synagogue right this is
01:08:30.600 what’s right for you what’s right for
01:08:32.279 your body and as you get older we have
01:08:36.640 different needs we have increased
01:08:38.319 protein needs we get less and less
01:08:40.719 efficient at extracting protein from
01:08:42.920 food so as you get older you have
01:08:45.880 different needs and so and according to
01:08:49.198 the times of the year you have different
01:08:51.799 needs so I think that this is constantly
01:08:55.560 changing and you need to constantly be
01:08:58.040 checking in with yourself and making
01:09:00.600 sure that you’re getting what you need
01:09:04.080 um I want to talk a little bit about
01:09:06.560 movement because that ends up being
01:09:08.520 really important sitting is the new
01:09:10.560 smoking if you are going to the gym but
01:09:13.920 sitting the rest of the day not good not
01:09:17.158 good like exercising couch potatoes are
01:09:20.560 still at risk for all of the chronic
01:09:22.759 diseases we see with sedentary
01:09:24.479 lifestyles
01:09:25.880 um on the other end of it OV exercise is
01:09:28.719 a problem too because it’s very
01:09:30.238 inflammatory right because again your
01:09:33.080 body only understands safety and danger
01:09:35.679 so if you’re a marathon runner your body
01:09:37.839 thinks you’re running away from a
01:09:50.080 saber-tooth or 3 years right but this is
01:09:52.839 what marathon runners are doing and so
01:09:54.840 many of them land up in my office saying
01:09:57.040 I don’t understand why I got breast
01:09:58.840 cancer and I’m like I don’t understand
01:10:00.440 why it took this long yeah right so so
01:10:05.520 over exercise underere ex exercise is a
01:10:08.400 problem and when you exercise how you
01:10:12.400 exercise
01:10:13.520 matters because we have to maintain
01:10:16.360 muscle mass after a certain age and it
01:10:18.880 gets harder and harder to do it so you
01:10:21.040 have to start to think about weight
01:10:22.560 training in your 40s so you need to
01:10:24.920 build that muscle so that you can
01:10:27.640 continue to build it or maintain it in
01:10:29.840 your 50s or Beyond because that is the
01:10:32.080 center of your metabolism and you can
01:10:34.080 have metabolic Health if your fat to
01:10:36.640 lean muscle ratio is too high yep so you
01:10:39.480 have to build that muscle lift heavy
01:10:41.360 things I think everyone should have a
01:10:43.239 fasting practice we are not meant to be
01:10:46.480 grazers you do not do well in the long
01:10:49.440 run if you’re a grazer there are lots of
01:10:51.440 different ways to fast it should
01:10:53.520 probably be a combination of them and
01:10:57.120 during it and you should respect the
01:10:59.480 time of the year so during the summer
01:11:02.000 you have shorter fasting wind windows
01:11:05.120 and during the winter you have much
01:11:06.719 longer fasting windows and just remember
01:11:09.120 that we are evolutionary beings and if
01:11:12.640 you were outside of the cave after dark
01:11:16.080 eating you were probably going to be
01:11:18.480 someone else’s food yeah right so we are
01:11:21.560 not meant to eat after dark our
01:11:23.480 metabolism changes significant ly after
01:11:25.960 dark so eat during the day fast when
01:11:28.600 it’s dark I think a couple of
01:11:32.000 72-hour water cleanses every um like one
01:11:37.480 every quarter is really good to reset
01:11:40.800 your cells and to allow for uh cell
01:11:44.360 cellular damage clearance and to reset
01:11:47.600 your hormonal system and and that kind
01:11:50.080 of thing so I’m very in favor of
01:11:53.159 fast um and and the last thing that I’ll
01:11:56.679 say that everyone should be really aware
01:11:58.920 of is how much blue light exposure
01:12:01.639 you’re getting how much electromagnetic
01:12:03.960 field exposure you’re getting you know
01:12:06.320 if you’re not sleeping at night but
01:12:07.840 you’re up until the time you go to bed
01:12:10.440 on your device that’s why right like
01:12:14.000 after dark we need to turn off those
01:12:16.480 overhead lights we need to have ey Lev
01:12:18.880 light or below and we need to be off of
01:12:22.080 those electronics that blue light tells
01:12:25.199 your body that you’re supposed to be
01:12:26.679 awake and if you’re not sleeping sleep
01:12:29.760 is where the healing happens so if
01:12:31.560 you’re not sleeping you’re not healing
01:12:33.560 so we need to prioritize sleep and in
01:12:35.920 order to sleep we need less stimulation
01:12:39.400 so
01:12:40.639 making your time and your space after
01:12:44.159 dark quiet beautiful I love it um and
01:12:48.120 I’m sure there’s more but let’s I go on
01:12:50.679 all day know well you know one thing I
01:12:52.600 did want to say is we talked a little
01:12:55.400 bit about the congestion in breasts the
01:12:58.239 congestion in the lymphatic system and
01:13:00.560 one of the things that movement and
01:13:02.239 exercise helps with is keeping that
01:13:04.920 lymphatic system moving but 100 you even
01:13:07.679 be more direct about that because I
01:13:10.120 think this is I’m only mentioning this
01:13:11.480 because I think it’s really important
01:13:13.040 and you probably didn’t mention it just
01:13:14.199 because I asked you for five and you’re
01:13:15.480 like okay how long am I going to go with
01:13:16.880 this but things like whether it’s
01:13:19.239 rebounding like jump love rebounding a
01:13:21.560 on a rebounder dry skin brushing you
01:13:24.560 know just I’ve been doing that in the
01:13:26.120 sauna lately or if you’re fortunate
01:13:28.719 enough to have access to a vibration
01:13:30.480 plate like these are all things if you
01:13:33.560 think about it that just keep things
01:13:35.880 moving and the one last thing because
01:13:38.159 we’re talking about breast that I do
01:13:39.760 want to explore a little bit with you is
01:13:42.840 the types of bras that women are wearing
01:13:45.719 because and I don’t know how how
01:13:48.520 relevant you see that as being but I
01:13:52.000 just would love to invite you to weigh
01:13:53.800 in on that a bit because you got women
01:13:55.480 wearing like these very restrictive like
01:13:58.520 I mean I stopped wearing underwire bras
01:14:00.800 years ago now having said that I’m lucky
01:14:03.280 I’m not a giant like I don’t I’m not
01:14:05.239 overly endowed and so it’s easier for me
01:14:07.600 to make that decision so with respect to
01:14:10.600 our sisters with bigger sisters I don’t
01:14:12.960 want to impose on them a different way
01:14:14.679 of yes so I I think my answer here is it
01:14:19.840 depends right the Restriction is not
01:14:23.400 helpful it does stag State circulation
01:14:26.440 it does create this environment where
01:14:28.600 there is more lymphatic stagnation for
01:14:31.639 sure I think that you know if you’re out
01:14:35.520 and about and you’re not comfortable
01:14:37.800 being without a bra for sure wear one I
01:14:41.400 would try to wear the bra that is the
01:14:44.239 least restrictive especially when you
01:14:46.480 think about around your rib cage and
01:14:48.760 things like that so wear the bra that’s
01:14:51.560 the least restrictive that makes you
01:14:53.600 feel physically comfort aable yeah right
01:14:56.960 yeah I’m like you I have an A cup breast
01:15:00.120 if I’m wearing a bra or not wearing a
01:15:02.199 bra no one notices I’m very lucky that
01:15:05.239 way there are lots of people who that
01:15:07.159 doesn’t apply to and I understand and
01:15:09.159 respect that so you need to be
01:15:11.080 comfortable in and live within societal
01:15:13.800 Norms however when you’re walking around
01:15:16.040 your own house at the end of the day you
01:15:18.280 should not be wearing your bra until
01:15:19.920 bedtime it’s not good for you so and you
01:15:23.880 should definitely not be sleeping in a
01:15:26.159 bra and I know so many women who are
01:15:28.920 sleeping in their bra really yeah so you
01:15:33.120 should definitely not be doing that know
01:15:35.320 that it does cause
01:15:37.199 restriction and we need that
01:15:40.840 circulation because if not those toxins
01:15:43.560 are just going to become stagnant in
01:15:45.440 there so um that that’s kind of where I
01:15:48.440 land on the Bro thing I I want to be
01:15:51.360 careful and I want to be respectful of
01:15:54.040 women who abs absolutely like need to
01:15:56.679 wear a bra because I get it that is a
01:15:58.719 real thing there are women with very
01:16:00.360 large breasts who are just not
01:16:02.320 comfortable physically or otherwise not
01:16:04.760 wearing a bra so I’m not saying not to
01:16:06.800 wear one but I’m saying that limit limit
01:16:09.840 the time that you wear it to when you’re
01:16:12.280 out and about and then when you’re home
01:16:15.000 I hope that you know you can find
01:16:16.800 something that is more comfortable that
01:16:19.520 doesn’t restrict your circulation and
01:16:21.560 your flow well I have a couple friends
01:16:23.600 who say the best when you ask them
01:16:24.960 what’s the best time of day and they’re
01:16:26.120 like the best time of day is when I get
01:16:27.400 to go home and I take my bra off and
01:16:29.960 it’s the first thing they do when they
01:16:31.560 walk in the door it’s hilarious how I
01:16:33.199 feel about my shoes there you go I’m
01:16:35.679 like a high heels girl and I’m like oh I
01:16:38.400 can’t wait to take them off all right
01:16:40.199 okay good um okay so we you know we’re
01:16:43.199 we’re we’re going along I just think
01:16:46.239 there’s a couple of other topics uh do
01:16:49.080 you think we can do HRT in like in kind
01:16:52.520 of in a fast fire yes rapid fire rapid
01:16:55.639 fire okay so number one and I know that
01:16:58.440 you’ve got this down to a science and
01:17:01.440 and a short science why do women need
01:17:04.639 bioidentical hormone replacement therapy
01:17:06.760 and we we’ll probably record you and I
01:17:08.679 will do a part two and we’ll dive into
01:17:10.760 HRT amazing but let’s just talk about
01:17:13.560 the reasons why you do and why you’re
01:17:15.760 not doing it yeah so let me be clear we
01:17:19.920 are not doing this to preserve fertility
01:17:22.000 we’re not doing this to bring back or
01:17:23.679 extend menstruation
01:17:25.719 we are giving women hormones in order to
01:17:29.280 prevent them from being in nursing homes
01:17:32.560 being in wheelchairs and being in adult
01:17:34.760 diapers that is what we’re doing we are
01:17:37.239 protecting their brain we are protecting
01:17:38.960 their heart we are protecting their
01:17:40.280 bladder we are protecting their bones
01:17:42.639 right we’re trying to prevent hip
01:17:44.679 fractures dementia cardiac events and
01:17:48.199 bladder leakage and these are the things
01:17:50.840 that end up being really detrimental as
01:17:54.360 you age
01:17:55.639 yeah right as many women die every year
01:17:58.560 as a complication of a fracture as due
01:18:01.000 of breast cancer people don’t know that
01:18:03.000 statistic right we H if we’re going to
01:18:05.840 care about breast cancer we have to care
01:18:08.320 about bone health and bis phosphinates
01:18:10.320 are not the answer no okay and the I I
01:18:14.239 just want to say that the reason that
01:18:16.639 the whole medical community has been
01:18:19.120 against hormone replacement for so long
01:18:21.360 is they are getting this messaging from
01:18:23.679 the pharmaceutical company
01:18:25.520 and the reason the pharmaceutical
01:18:27.040 companies feel this way is because what
01:18:29.560 would they rather do have people be on
01:18:32.040 bioidentical hormone replacement which
01:18:33.920 the pharmaceutical companies can’t make
01:18:35.440 money off of that anyway but if they’re
01:18:37.800 on biological hormone replacement they
01:18:40.560 don’t need hard medicine they don’t need
01:18:42.159 brain medicine they don’t need bone
01:18:43.520 medicine they don’t need gut medicine
01:18:45.400 they don’t need bladder medicine they
01:18:47.520 don’t need skin medicine like it’s it’s
01:18:50.000 on and on and on and on and on so you
01:18:52.600 can either be on bioidentical hormone
01:18:54.400 replace or you can take seven eight or
01:18:56.360 nine
01:18:57.880 Pharmaceuticals which incidentally don’t
01:18:59.840 work oh and by the way yeah we’ll make
01:19:01.679 you sicker and in bioidentical hormone
01:19:03.800 replacement I do want to point out to a
01:19:06.199 lot of women because I’ve heard from
01:19:07.840 women that their doctors have given them
01:19:09.719 a flat out no when they’ve asked about
01:19:11.239 this is testosterone is part of the
01:19:13.080 cocktail um yeah in small doses but it’s
01:19:17.679 part of the landscape So my answer is
01:19:20.840 yes but it’s a yes and because I don’t
01:19:23.840 start off every everyone on testosterone
01:19:26.320 I start off everyone on estrogen and
01:19:29.320 progesterone and eventually we’re
01:19:31.840 monitoring their DHEA we’re monitoring
01:19:34.000 their testosterone and when they come
01:19:35.480 back to me and they say like I I don’t
01:19:38.199 have it anymore my confidence is gone I
01:19:41.159 have no liido I’m like time for
01:19:43.639 testosterone there we go right little
01:19:45.760 trt for the girls okay let’s let’s pay
01:19:48.600 attention to what our women are selling
01:19:50.639 us let’s pay attention to symptoms
01:19:52.880 that’s what we are doing with RT we are
01:19:55.719 managing symptoms without overtreating
01:19:59.040 them I am not looking for that woman to
01:20:01.440 be hormone euphoric that’s not what I’m
01:20:03.800 doing and I am carefully monitoring
01:20:05.880 everyone especially me because I’m
01:20:07.840 treating the breast cancer population so
01:20:10.239 two years after you’ve had your breast
01:20:11.960 cancer if you’re ready for hormones
01:20:13.960 we’re having that conversation because I
01:20:16.120 know that you’re probably going to
01:20:17.600 survive your breast cancer and I don’t
01:20:19.600 want you to live the rest of your life
01:20:21.920 depressed anxious not sleeping having
01:20:25.040 pain having osteoporosis having
01:20:27.280 palpitations leaking your urine having
01:20:29.679 no libido sex being painful having your
01:20:32.800 relationship suffer like that’s not life
01:20:35.560 that’s not life and that is actually the
01:20:37.600 title of my next book The Forgotten
01:20:39.239 woman because we can’t treat all of
01:20:41.560 these women for breast cancer and say
01:20:43.920 just be grateful you’re alive because
01:20:46.080 that life that I just explained that
01:20:48.320 life that so many women after breast
01:20:50.320 cancer are living that life sucks yeah
01:20:53.760 and that’s not fair
01:20:55.760 people who have breast cancer are people
01:20:57.480 too and they deserve the same advantages
01:20:59.800 that the rest of us have okay which
01:21:01.880 answers the next question which was bhrt
01:21:04.600 after cancer yes and on an individual
01:21:08.080 basis carefully monitored which is the
01:21:10.280 perfect answer the last one you have to
01:21:12.679 be two years out we have to demonstrate
01:21:15.040 that you don’t have any evidence of
01:21:17.719 active current disease and you have to
01:21:19.960 do all the other things you have to get
01:21:21.320 your diet in right you have to get your
01:21:22.600 movement in line you have to get your
01:21:23.880 sleep on board you need to give up some
01:21:26.000 of those time with the electronics spend
01:21:28.320 some time outside of nature we need to
01:21:30.120 detoxify your environment you got to get
01:21:31.960 rid of all those crappy products with
01:21:34.280 tons of xenoestrogens that are
01:21:36.040 interfering you know right no drinking
01:21:38.480 out of plastic and no cooking in
01:21:39.880 nonstick and you know no fragrance and
01:21:42.400 we’re cleaning up your world yeah and at
01:21:44.280 the same time if you want to do that I’m
01:21:45.840 going to write you for hormone
01:21:46.880 replacement beautiful I love it last one
01:21:50.440 that we talked about briefly before the
01:21:52.320 podcast started was women will and and I
01:21:55.760 get these comments on my feed sometimes
01:21:57.520 when we’re talking about hormones women
01:21:59.440 who are 10 years 15 years 20 years out
01:22:02.000 from menopause saying well what about me
01:22:04.639 can I still do bhrt or is it too late
01:22:07.000 for me yeah so it’s absolutely
01:22:10.120 positively not too late now can we undo
01:22:13.719 all the damage that happens in that
01:22:16.440 period before you went on no probably
01:22:18.679 not but we can preserve okay right and
01:22:22.600 so even if you’ve had all that bone loss
01:22:25.760 we’re probably not going to get it all
01:22:27.320 back but we can stabilize that that
01:22:30.159 condition and we can make things a
01:22:31.880 little better can we reverse all of the
01:22:35.960 cardiac damage that’s been done because
01:22:38.400 when you lose your estrogen you also
01:22:40.480 lose the health of the muscles the blood
01:22:43.560 vessels that kind of thing can we
01:22:45.639 improve it a little yes can we reverse
01:22:48.040 all of it I I don’t know but here’s what
01:22:50.880 I know does happen the brain gets
01:22:53.639 clearer the the brain fog goes away the
01:22:57.440 memory comes back the word search gets
01:23:00.000 better the bladder symptoms get better
01:23:02.639 the vaginal symptoms get better the mood
01:23:05.320 gets better these are really important
01:23:07.440 things it’s quality of life is what it’s
01:23:09.639 called yes these are really important
01:23:11.960 things that there is no timeline put on
01:23:15.280 them so when you’re
01:23:17.320 ready go these are really important
01:23:19.920 things I love it well Dr Simmons I think
01:23:23.800 we could talk for a lot longer but I
01:23:25.760 think in the interest of the audience
01:23:27.719 and your time um maybe we’re going to
01:23:30.120 close now and possibly have to part two
01:23:32.120 so why don’t you share with I know you
01:23:34.120 have a great book yeah um and share with
01:23:36.440 people how they can find you I know you
01:23:38.400 do all kinds of stuff in the community
01:23:40.800 so share I hope I remember everything so
01:23:44.239 let’s start with if you know anyone who
01:23:46.760 is dealing with a breast cancer
01:23:47.920 diagnosis or you’re looking to prevent
01:23:49.960 one the smart woman’s Guides of breast
01:23:52.000 cancer I’m holding the book up but I
01:23:53.760 know that there’s some people that are
01:23:55.120 just listening so the smart woman’s
01:23:56.639 guide to breast cancer you can get that
01:23:58.120 on Amazon it is literally your guide to
01:24:02.400 breast health and as I always say breast
01:24:04.960 health is health and the same things
01:24:06.560 that are going to give you healthy
01:24:07.760 breasts are going to give you a healthy
01:24:09.320 brain healthy heart healthy skin healthy
01:24:10.920 bones healthy gut healthy vagina all of
01:24:12.840 it all the things right all the so then
01:24:16.760 if you like what you heard today I do
01:24:18.760 have a podcast it’s called keeping a
01:24:20.639 breast with Dr Jen we put out a new
01:24:22.520 episode every Monday and you can listen
01:24:24.560 to that anywhere that you listen to your
01:24:27.120 podcast I do still see patients um I see
01:24:32.000 them in a one-on-one capacity and I also
01:24:34.760 have a group called the breast health
01:24:36.520 blueprint where I meet with with these
01:24:39.239 people every week and we address any
01:24:42.520 concerns that they’re having in in
01:24:45.520 health in general so uh you can reach me
01:24:49.159 at real Health md.com re a h e a l tmdc
01:24:55.679 I’m on all the social channels at Dr Jen
01:24:59.360 Simmons and my Jen has two
01:25:02.040 NS um my Imaging Center in uh haford
01:25:07.000 Pennsylvania and in Nado California is
01:25:10.880 called Perfection Imaging and the
01:25:13.239 Perfection is spelled with a q in the
01:25:14.960 middle instead of a c nice and
01:25:20.080 um I had one last thing but now I can’t
01:25:22.679 remember what it was so oh I’ll just
01:25:25.239 tell you that anyone who is interested
01:25:26.880 in that ARA test is a r a. care and you
01:25:32.119 use the code Dr gen 20 d r j nn2 to get
01:25:36.520 20% off because that is what I am
01:25:39.199 universally using for screening it’s
01:25:41.000 something that you’re doing at home uh
01:25:43.679 and um it is 91% sensitive and 58%
01:25:48.920 specific but it is a very very very
01:25:51.239 powerful and useful tool in this day and
01:25:53.760 age where
01:25:55.040 there are so many things that can hurt
01:25:57.080 you this will not I love it I love it
01:26:01.199 thank you so much uh this has been so
01:26:04.800 great I’ve learned a ton um and I mean I
01:26:08.360 always do in my podcast but there you
01:26:10.960 you certainly blew my mind a couple of
01:26:12.480 times there so thank you so much for the
01:26:14.440 work that you do and for thank you thank
01:26:17.480 you for having me it was a pleasure and
01:26:20.239 I look forward with you again absolutely